Steve Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 This just got more interesting........ Just ran the tracking number and it shows 2 packages with same label One returned to sender due to duplicate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve said: 2 packages with same label One returned to sender due to duplicate The returned inverter was your 12K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 That's what I'm thinking I have no way to find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 This is funny When Jack gave me the tracking number he listed description as 12K-LF-SP-48V/110V/220V-AMG, ASL2, no lcd, no charger Thats the ASL2 in the 12K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Helen just told me she left the company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Helen just told me she left the company Helen was transfer to handle returned inverter and remanufactured inverter according to her personal email to me . She longer handle complaint for PJ in China . I can not show her email . I hope you can still return your inverter and get a complete refund . Do not exchange for an inverter with the AMG2.0 transformer . No way to know if the transformer has a ASL5.0 as PJ will put any transformer in the case . Thank you for all your information as this show me that PJ do not know who is in charge but I trust Helen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Considering how little I paid for it I'm thinking of just keeping it Now that I know that they were sending me an ASL2 either way there's no point in getting it exchanged and with proper tuning and cooling this thing should perform quite well Correct resonance will increase efficiency reducing heat, I'm just a bit surprised they didn't figure that out on the design level as it's been done on E frame inverters for decades (tuning them was part of my job) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 If only I could get a bigger transformer.....that fits in the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 If only I could get a bigger transformer.....that fits in the case My 8000kw PJ has a ASL5.0 and a ASL5.0 will fit in yours . PJ put the ASL5.0 in the AMG 16000kw . Helen also sell inverter parts on ebay but have to go thru ebay message or contact seller . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 hours ago, dickson said: If only I could get a bigger transformer.....that fits in the case My 8000kw PJ has a ASL5.0 and a ASL5.0 will fit in yours . PJ put the ASL5.0 in the AMG 16000kw . Helen also sell inverter parts on ebay but have to go thru ebay message or contact seller . Are the larger transformers AMG? Does it matter? Did Helen run off with Ray Jungle Power? The timing is suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Are the larger transformers AMG? Does it matter? Did Helen run off with Ray Jungle Power? The timing is suspicious. The ASL5.0 transformer for AMG has 6 wires . I like the ASL5.0 not AMG has 5 wires . Need to ask PJ in China if the REV 11.3 control board will work with the discontinued ASL5.0 five wires transformer . It is very suspicious that they leave PJ in China at the same time . Ray Jungle Power still have 2 active accounts on ebay with different name . Helen still has her original ebay account and is still working for PJ but in a different department in Walnut (not Walmart ) on what to do with all the returned inverters and repairing them but not deal with complaint . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, dickson said: The ASL5.0 transformer for AMG has 6 wires . I like the ASL5.0 not AMG has 5 wires . Need to ask PJ in China if the REV 11.3 control board will work with the discontinued ASL5.0 five wires transformer . As far as electronics are concerned, there is zero difference between any of the transformers (or control boards) that PJ has made. Any control board to any transformer (of the general same voltage specification)...no change/no problem. 1 hour ago, RobertM said: Are the larger transformers AMG? Does it matter? As far as I know, the "AMG" has to do with the winding specification. "ASLxx" defines the core size. kinda curious that the "AMG" spec matches the GS spec pretty closely, hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sid Genetry Solar said: As far as electronics are concerned, there is zero difference between any of the transformers (or control boards) that PJ has made. Any control board to any transformer (of the general same voltage specification)...no change/no problem. As far as I know, the "AMG" has to do with the winding specification. "ASLxx" defines the core size. kinda curious that the "AMG" spec matches the GS spec pretty closely, hehe. AMG is an acronym for All Most Genetry 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RobertM said: AMG is an acronym for All Most Genetry Haha. Might as well.....for the voltage spec and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Is there an asl5 available....48v? If not the asl2 should be able to handle intermittent loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 If not the asl2 should be able to handle intermittent loads ASL2 handle resistive load but not the inductive load like well pump when surge last more than 5 seconds . Sean has ASL5.0 in his barn but no time to check . ASL5.0 was discontinued but ASL5 AMG is available but shipping from China is not worth it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 Not in a hurry for it, but definitely interested in the asl5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 13 hours ago, dickson said: Sean has ASL5.0 in his barn but no time to check No idea where that nonsense is coming from. Sean sold off all the extra transformers he had before he moved from the Lansing address. He is not doing PJ repairs anymore, and as such does not have access to spare parts such as PJ transformers. worth noting that an old-style AS-5 transformer that I got in a "9000W" PJ inverter, would overheat at 3kw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Not in a hurry for it, but definitely interested in the asl5 Best to not do anymore testing with Powerjack inverter . Many parts I get from ebay are BAD and the wires arc and on fire . PJ in CHINA discontiued many parts so parts are not available . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 No matter This 8k they sent me runs pretty well Been running the house on it and only issue I've had was blown fuse at 4500W........kinda expected as it's a 20A fuse Bought the NOS 6K GS unit so it won't matter long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 I have now modified my PJ unit by removing most of the transformer supports I'm running 1 strap and no center bolt allowing air flow through the center as the center of a toroid has the same thermal energy as the outside in a much smaller area It runs much cooler now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Sean sold off all the extra transformers he had before he moved from the Lansing address. He is not doing PJ repairs anymore, and as such does not have access to spare parts such as PJ transformers. Anyone doing PJ repairs is going to be almost impossible as Powerjack only make rev 11.3 control board . Sean latest youtube say he will sell working PJ inverters with NO warranty and used parts with no test and NO warranty . He will not sell parts from a working iunverter and used parts will come from non working inverter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilgrimvalley Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 8/4/2022 at 7:58 AM, Sid Genetry Solar said: No idea where that nonsense is coming from. Sean sold off all the extra transformers he had before he moved from the Lansing address. seems odd he(Sean) is now advertising and selling off his PowerJack stuff.....see on the gs website and his recent YouTube videos....he must be hiding stuff from ya...🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilgrimvalley Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 PowerJack sellers just get new accounts under new alias. I have dealt with several before they get into trouble on eBay and disappear.... rayjunglepower was the latest fake abusive PowerJack sales account on eBay that is now non-existent... money is their lifeline....so next alias please! you do not know if a Jack is a Jill or a Bill or a David. and Helen is still there....???? just not into complaints department... I can not tell by email or text if any of them are real...skype accounts...same thing>>> can't tell a Jack from a Jill I do not speak Chinese and will never go to China. I doubt anyone from gs has ever seem any of them or ever traveled to China/Taiwan or actually been able to either... just blindly trusting them to send something??? must be a Confucius warning they keep to themselves about buyer beware!!!! they claim Taiwan made but not likely as most originate out of China.... has anyone ever seen any of these fake people??? my opinion, I have never seen any one of them.... at least the cc companies and eBay got my money back when they sent the piece of paper crumpled up in a tiny card board box or the flat envelop with only a piece of paper.... seen more than one of their scams.... what do they get except bad publicity for these fraud schemes??? do they gain on the float of the money....does the credit card company and/or eBay take the hit??? just curious? more snow and colder than yesterday and more cold n snow coming this week.... off grid in South Dakota 😎 the above dribble is for your Saturday morning pleasure.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 PJ is real They do sell real inverters Their first stuff was pretty bad but they improved.......... Than they got more concerned about weight than performance and cut back on capability (but not labeling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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