Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Today I got my shipment from power jack and it wasn't what I expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 It's runs fairly well but is very simple I think it's a 4k max unit like the 8000W PJ unit. The transformer has no tag on it but appears to be the same core as my other unit It has 3 caps on the power board The fets are RUH1H150R 100v 120A That makes them capable of 50% more current than the RU7088R FETs in my 24v unit Anyone know what I have here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Steve said: Anyone know what I have here? Yeah, a Power Jack inverter with a different sticker on top 😉. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Genetry Solar Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Power Jack actually makes several rebranded inverters. They offered to rebrand something for us but we decided to go the all custom route instead. I find it odd that they dont at least print out a brand new sticker. Would be curious to see the inside of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Anyone know what I have here? I am confused that you ordered a 12000w PJ inverter and was sent a Blue Energy 8000w inveter made by PJ . This has to be a custom inverter that someone return to Walnut . The largest is 3500w by Blue Energy on their wsb site . The 8000w inverter NOT AMG will probably do 4000w and will not have a ASL2.0 transformer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 It is AMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 hours ago, dickson said: I am confused that you ordered a 12000w PJ inverter and was sent a Blue Energy 8000w inveter made by PJ . Hey, it would be nice if you would get your facts straight before just posting. That's not a Blue Energy inverter. Blue Energy is not made by PJ It is not a custom inverter. It's a newer AMG-series PJ rebranded with a different sticker on top. The sticker doesn't even say Blue Energy. It says Plus Energy WccSolar Can't find much on Plus Energy WccSolar, but I did find this Spanish webpage, which clearly indicates that it's made by PJ: https://hiperchino.com/articulo/B079YW4JJZ/plusenergy-wccsolar-inverter and of course, there's the "WccSolar" website, which the inverters are unabashedly relabeled PJs: https://www.wccsolar.net/product-page/inversor-solar-8000w-48v-onda-pura-cargador-120a?lang=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 It apparently has 3 capacitors, to my 2, and 120A mosfets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Hey, it would be nice if you would get your facts straight before just posting. I saw Energy and look up Blue Energy . He was sent a 8000w WccSolar AMG inverter . Maybe it has a ASL4.0 transformer but why no label ? He can probably return it . and get full refund ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 It apparently has 3 capacitors, to my 2, and 120A mosfets His mainboard with 3 capacitor is probably like the mini mainboard in the 20kw PJ and has 6 FETs on each mosboard ? This 8000w WccSolar may do 4000kw ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, dickson said: It apparently has 3 capacitors, to my 2, and 120A mosfets His mainboard with 3 capacitor is probably like the mini mainboard in the 20kw PJ and has 6 FETs on each mosboard ? This 8000w WccSolar may do 4000kw ? The FETs are are different value, and can handle a higher wattage? Can additional capacitors be added by an end user to a PJ mainboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 The FETs are are different value, and can handle a higher wattage? Can additional capacitors be added by an end user to a PJ mainboard? Your mainboard can only have 2 capacitors and 4 FETs per mainboard I think . You can email Helen for the 20kw mini mainboard with 6 FETs and 4 capacitors . The cost of 185 dollars and maybe more now for a complete mainboard is probably not what you want to do . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dickson said: The FETs are are different value, and can handle a higher wattage? Can additional capacitors be added by an end user to a PJ mainboard? Your mainboard can only have 2 capacitors and 4 FETs per mainboard I think . You can email Helen for the 20kw mini mainboard with 6 FETs and 4 capacitors . The cost of 185 dollars and maybe more now for a complete mainboard is probably not what you want to do . There are circles printed on the mainboard pcb that indicate where additional caps could go. You can see one in this photo. I think I have 4 banks of 6 FET's. I don't know the value of them. Edited July 29, 2022 by RobertM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 There are circles printed on the mainboard pcb that indicate where additional caps could go. You can see one in this photo. I think I have 4 banks of 6 FET's. I don't know the value of them. The mainboard is the same one in the 20kw PJ with 6 FETs mosboard . You can solder 2 more capacitors to the mainboard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Label on the box The main board has spots for 4 caps 3 installed 6 FETs per bank High speed fan The box says it's an ASL2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 The box says it's an ASL2 Can you still return for the PJ 12kw that you order ? Can this inverter run a refrigerator and freezer and maybe a 1/2 hp well pump ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Runs my lights fridge tvs cooler and microwave without issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Haven't tried it on the well pump but the better FETs it might I haven't tried it as I'm not sure I'm keeping it If I keep it the top plate, center bolt and rubber is coming off the transformer so it can get air flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Runs my lights fridge tvs cooler and microwave without issue Being able to run the microwave about 3000 watts is probably equal to what a 12000watt AMG PJ inverter can barely do . IF running a microwave and fridge at the same time is about 4000 watts so your inverter is better than most AMG . IF it run a well pump then for sure PJ done something good . Thank you for the information as you have a good main board and control board . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Oh come on @dickson.... Microwave: 1500W Refrigerator: 100W (average). OK, I'll give you 150W. total 1650W. Peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 total 1650W. Peanuts For new microwave and fridge that use less wattage . Mine appliance are over 20 years old and use more wattage . I like to see the AMG 8000w inverter run a well pump . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 It was also running the cooler 1/2h but it beeped when the motor started Had my Upower 10K running all the same loads without much issue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve said: It was also running the cooler 1/2h but it beeped when the motor started Had my Upower 10K running all the same loads without much issue Is there a notice on the inverter that advises buying a "power choke" to safely start motors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickson Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Haven't tried it on the well pump but the better FETs it might I haven't tried it as I'm not sure I'm keeping it I would return it because the upower run without issue and do not need a power choke . Your upower should start a well pump so get something like the upower . The notice for a power choke show there is a design flaw in starting inductive load . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Genetry Solar Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 10 hours ago, dickson said: Mine appliance are over 20 years old and use more wattage . I've had appliances the same age...domestic microwaves simply don't run over 1,500W (max 1,650W) due to 120v circuit limitations. And regular domestic refrigerators simply don't use over 150W continuous for the compressor. Most of the time, they run under 120W. There is absolutely no way a domestic 'fridge will use 1,000W continuous in normal operation. @dicksonYou need to get your facts straight...all of your technical nonsense on the forums is getting quite annoying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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